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PostSubject: Knicks/Sonics   Knicks/Sonics I_icon_minitimeMon Jun 16, 2008 6:42 pm

Knicks get:
PG Delonte West -- 24 -- 1/$2,762,828 -- 78
SF Jeff Green -- 21 -- 4/$3,287,640 -- 76
Sonics 2008 2nd Round Pick

Sonics get:
PG Stephon Marbury -- 31 -- 1/$21,937,500 -- 80
C Eddy Curry -- 25 -- 3/$9,723,983 -- 80

Sonics get "win now" help at two positions, while the Knicks continue to rebuild.

I agree.
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PostSubject: Re: Knicks/Sonics   Knicks/Sonics I_icon_minitimeMon Jun 16, 2008 6:44 pm

Big Snacks wrote:
Knicks get:
PG Delonte West -- 24 -- 1/$2,762,828 -- 78
SF Jeff Green -- 21 -- 4/$3,287,640 -- 76
Sonics 2008 2nd Round Pick

Sonics get:
PG Stephon Marbury -- 31 -- 1/$21,937,500 -- 80
C Eddy Curry -- 25 -- 3/$9,723,983 -- 80

Sonics get "win now" help at two positions, while the Knicks continue to rebuild.

I agree.

I agree.
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PostSubject: Re: Knicks/Sonics   Knicks/Sonics I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 18, 2008 2:34 pm

Anyone going to comment on why these trades are being denied or are we supposed to guess?
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PostSubject: Re: Knicks/Sonics   Knicks/Sonics I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 18, 2008 2:51 pm

probably because it is a terrible trade
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PostSubject: Re: Knicks/Sonics   Knicks/Sonics I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 18, 2008 2:52 pm

Gonzo wrote:
probably because it is a terrible trade

For who?
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PostSubject: Re: Knicks/Sonics   Knicks/Sonics I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 18, 2008 2:54 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Knicks/Sonics   Knicks/Sonics I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 18, 2008 3:02 pm

Gonzo wrote:
Sonics

I dump salary, he picks up players to help win now.

Marbury 13.9 PPG 4.7 APG 2.5 RPG
Curry 13.2 PPG 4.7 RPG 0.5 APG

West 8.3 PPG 3.8 APG 3.2 RPG
Green 10.5 PPG 4.7 RPG 1.5 APG
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PostSubject: Re: Knicks/Sonics   Knicks/Sonics I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 18, 2008 3:23 pm

It doesnt matter what their stats are in real life. West is basically the same player as Marbury but 7 years younger and a contract of 18 million less.

Curry and Green meh. I can see Green going up to a 78 or so. Curry may be a bit better but he has a huge salary and isnt that much better.

Then he throws in a 2nd round pick and a top of it this doesnt help him win now as their ratings are very similar and the Sonics suck anyways.
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PostSubject: Re: Knicks/Sonics   Knicks/Sonics I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 18, 2008 3:52 pm

Sonics aren't getting enough.
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PostSubject: Re: Knicks/Sonics   Knicks/Sonics I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 18, 2008 5:09 pm

Gonzo wrote:
It doesnt matter what their stats are in real life. West is basically the same player as Marbury but 7 years younger and a contract of 18 million less.

Curry and Green meh. I can see Green going up to a 78 or so. Curry may be a bit better but he has a huge salary and isnt that much better.

Then he throws in a 2nd round pick and a top of it this doesnt help him win now as their ratings are very similar and the Sonics suck anyways.

Stats in real life are what's going to determine their rating in '09, you tool.

West is NOT the same player as Marbury, unless of course you only watched West during the playoffs (which I fully assume is the case).

Curry is a young, talented center (which is VERY hard to come by in this game, check the rosters and you'll know what I'm talking about). Green didn't play very well in his rookie year.

A 2nd round pick will be at best a high 60 - low 70.
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PostSubject: Re: Knicks/Sonics   Knicks/Sonics I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 18, 2008 5:10 pm

Grunge8594 wrote:
Sonics aren't getting enough.

Is this league going to be ridiculous like this?

How can I make a better trade than this? I give up veteran talent and dump cap for lesser players who are younger and cheaper.

How do I build a team if every trade I make is cockblocked?

Nazi trade councils ruin the fun of sim leagues.
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PostSubject: Re: Knicks/Sonics   Knicks/Sonics I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 18, 2008 9:09 pm

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Stats in real life are what's going to determine their rating in '09, you tool.

West is NOT the same player as Marbury, unless of course you only watched West during the playoffs (which I fully assume is the case).

Curry is a young, talented center (which is VERY hard to come by in this game, check the rosters and you'll know what I'm talking about). Green didn't play very well in his rookie year.

A 2nd round pick will be at best a high 60 - low 70.

Chill out on the attacks their buddy. Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: Knicks/Sonics   Knicks/Sonics I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 18, 2008 9:57 pm

Big Snacks wrote:
Grunge8594 wrote:
Sonics aren't getting enough.

Is this league going to be ridiculous like this?

How can I make a better trade than this? I give up veteran talent and dump cap for lesser players who are younger and cheaper.

How do I build a team if every trade I make is cockblocked?

Nazi trade councils ruin the fun of sim leagues.

We approve only what is fair... Your system for evaluating may be much different than the rest of TC, but we saw a bad trade here.

Marbury's rating is gonna fall, and West and Green's will only go up... Not to mention, the salary the Sonics are getting makes this unfair.
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PostSubject: Re: Knicks/Sonics   Knicks/Sonics I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 19, 2008 10:29 am

Gonzo wrote:
Chill out on the attacks their buddy. Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion.

There*

Opinions are like assholes.
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PostSubject: Re: Knicks/Sonics   Knicks/Sonics I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 19, 2008 10:32 am

Grunge8594 wrote:
We approve only what is fair... Your system for evaluating may be much different than the rest of TC, but we saw a bad trade here.

Marbury's rating is gonna fall, and West and Green's will only go up... Not to mention, the salary the Sonics are getting makes this unfair.

What implies that Marbury will fall while West and Green will rise, when Marbury had better numbers than both of them last year?

Don't performance and stats from the previous year influence the ratings for the next year's game?

Again, I ask you, how am I supposed to rebuild and better my team if my trades are consistantly shot down?

I can see denying trades if one side is getting a far better deal which would negatively effect the league, but come on here. You allowed Oden to be traded for two scrubs and a pick.
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PostSubject: Re: Knicks/Sonics   Knicks/Sonics I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 19, 2008 9:07 pm

West isn't even on the Sonics...
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PostSubject: Re: Knicks/Sonics   Knicks/Sonics I_icon_minitimeSat Jun 21, 2008 4:23 pm

Grunge8594 wrote:
West isn't even on the Sonics...

lol
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